Found this here http://autodata.ru/article/all/kod_neis ... y_oshibok /, is this the only reason for this error? That's how it started: I stopped at the store, before that I drove as usual. Went out, dviglo did not stare, I turn around and here's to you races! The check is on, the car is trod (there was little fuel, got up on the hill and when the fuel returned it was almost at zero, but the badge did not burn.
Thought that hapnul dirt), the birder shows the error P1313. Came home with a burning check. 30 minutes later, once again started the car, the check went out. Rejoiced, went to refuel, but failed to get to refueling, as the check again caught fire (until refueling about 3 km.). Refueled, but the check does not go off and the car just hurts.
Added after 1 hour 12 minutes 53 seconds: By the way, I do not have any extraneous sounds, as described in this link http://autodata.ru/article/all/kod_neis ... y_oshibok / about the inadmissible ovalization of the piston pin, which resulted in a tractor sound. Here is a video with the work of the engine http://vk.com/video53295720_163974726.
GDI, now traveled 40 km. Acceleration and consumption is not much different, from how it was before the error, only hurts on the idle. Eco too early to turn off the beginning.
I recently had such a mistake .. dropped - did not happen again .. xs why. I sin on the 92nd benz. He returned back to the 95th. I think the ghost economy is not worth the engine killed by detonation. But again this is my IMHO.
Good afternoon! Here came a right-handed, tormented wheelbarrow to me. Mitsubishi Lancer Cedia Estate 1.8 VIN: CS5W-0301771 2001 dvs 4G93 I ask you to tell who knows. What a mistake P1313. Yes, and the question: what kind of compression should be? Shows 14.8-15.2 Mileage 375k but twisted about 100tyk Thank you in advance!
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Good afternoon! Here I have mentioned you highlights P1313 lean surge. Is it possible to say ambiguously the reason? From your refutation, I still do not understand what position is correct. If it is the deformation of parts inside the engine, is it not dangerous to exploit it? Zaranne thank you!
Message Number: # 3 Post by Alvin »Oct 16, 2008, 12:04 pm
At me the same error has got out on the scanner - diagnosticians decoding and have not found. I came to the service with a problem - the engine is unhealthy sausage at idle.
Turnovers on D in the norm - 650. Turnovers on N are overestimated - 750. Degree of detonation 35% TVND and Lambda work like a clock.
That's all I remember from the scanner's testimony. If we take into account that the car eats a liter of oil per 1000 kilometers, then the answer was given - the engine's repair with replacement of oil-bearing rings and cleaning from the deposit.
What do you say, friends? Repair will cost 20-25 thousand rubles.
There is a GDI catalyst temperature sensor on the car! It is cut from the side in the middle of a can of catalyst. P0425 Catalyst temperature sensor. The people were treated with a resistance of 23 kOhm to 140 kOhm.
Есть на Каризме GDI датчик температуры катализатора ! Врезан сбоку посередине банки с катализатором . P0425 Catalyst датчик температуры. Народ лечил подбором сопротивления от 23 кОм до 140 кОм .
I think that this is the case when it is necessary to use a variable resistance of 100 kΩ, connected through a constant one from 1 to 5 kOhm. As I understand it, the current there is small and you can use a resistance of 0.25 watts. How to make and where to place - I think you will understand. Any adjustment should be done on the hot catalyst.
Думаю , что это тот случай , когда надо использовать переменное сопротивление на 100 кОм , подключенное через постоянное любое от 1 до 5 кОм . Насколько я понял , ток там небольшой и можно использовать сопротивления мощностью 0.25 Вт. Как сделать и где расположить - думаю разберётесь . Каие-то подстройки надо делать на прогретом катализаторе .
Hello! Prompt please. The check turned on. I drove went. Then he threw off the terminal with Akum. Then again all the rules were ridden, until somehow again he went at high speed for a long distance. Some craftsmen prompted to knock out the catalyst, which I did (the one that is the last, the biggest), but it did not help.
I decided to scan and got the following (P0425 Catalyst Temperature Sensor Bank 1) thought it was an oxygen, but I was told that it was not the case (the oxygenator has its own error codes) and the catalyst temperature sensor that stands in the muffler last. I tried to disconnect it altogether and all the same, i.e. The check also lights up not immediately, but with a long drive at high speeds.
So what to prompt now? In which court to sue "on the protection of consumer rights"? Against the masters, which the "Temperature Sensor *" malfunction does not differ from "Warm up catalyst efficiency below threshold"? Or that a significant part of monitors (subroutines) for checking actuators, sensors, etc. Started only if certain conditions are met, i.e. Under certain conditions. For example, the speed of movement is more such,
* Approximate appearance - in http://www.alflash.com.ua/Diagn/77.jpg For many such sensors, the following applies: "Standard value: 1 MOhm or more (at 20 deg C) .The resistance should be approx 77 kOhm when the sensor temperature reaches 400 deg. C". The unit is able to catch both the "break" and "closing", and as a consequence, turn on the CE indicator and record the corresponding fault code in the memory.
This is not an oxygen sensor. Contact sensor problem is determined by the voltage change on the sensor, it looks at the date of the scanner. Change the voltage can be-changing the temperature of the catalyst-sudden overblows, after active driving. Usually the sensor is damaged and needs to be replaced.
A similar problem. The check, by the way, lights up when driving at a speed> = 80-90 km / h for more than 1 minute. I have a chain break on the sensor, the catalyst is knocked out, the sensor itself probably melted. The scanner always shows a value of 4.98 V and XX and during the movement.
The manual really says: "Standart value: 1 MOhm or more (at 20 deg C) .The resistance should be approx 77 kOhm when the sensor temperature reaches 400 deg. C" only in Russian.
Apparently after moving with the above specified speed for a minute, the sensor should be 100% warmed up to 400 deg. When the chain is broken, the computer sees resistance> 1 MΩ and ignites the transponder.
I see only this solution: cut off two wires of the sensor and connect them with a resistor of 77 kOhm. Let the ECU consider that the catalyst will always be warmed up - maybe the mixture will not be rich in addition to warm up the catalyst (it only works for a certain t: wink:).
The sensor itself is quite expensive, and without the catalyst its functionality is lost.
On Pajero IO a similar problem and there are complaints about the rise of consumption up to 12.5 liters: http://www.pinin.ru/plugins/forum/forum ... hp? 46375.0
Tell me please, who in practice decided the problem as a result? I soldered the resistor at 82 kOhm and the check still lights up at a speed of over 110 kmh.
I already ordered a new one somewhere 4200 goes out: (I tried trying to pick up resistors from 200kOhm to 50kOhm and all without result .To see, indeed, the temperature change tracks.
I tried to sprint with Toyota Wish (1.8 4WD). We left the city on the road and, not stopping, somewhere from 60 km / h "hacked". I immediately went ahead, but after about 120-130 km / h as an anchor threw out, although the turns were 3500-4000, i.е. Of the maximum torque. And all this without jerking and twitching, just like half a gas. It's a shame, damn it !!!
How much I understand, Catalyst Temperature Sensor signals about catalyst overheating? Overheating of the catalyst is certainly possible in hot weather with an established crash protection of the crankcase. And this case is described on the forum Mitsubishi Pajero Pinin IO Club http://pinin.ru/plugins/forum/forum_vie ... p? 46375.15
"By the way, since I talked about overheating of the catalyst, I caught overheating after installing the Sheriff defense and then driving along the track at a speed of 140 km / h (4000 rpm) for about an hour and a half. S. I did not observe this phenomenon before the installation of protection, so in summer it is necessary to be more careful when driving long distances with such tuning. "
And what about the overheating of the catalyst on the PININ without this sensor, but with two lambdas? Will it stifle the engine by impoverishing the mixture? Or what?
Comp showed an error p 0425 only at a speed of more than 120 km you throw off the terminal and you can drive at least a year if not more than 100 how to eliminate the breakdown ??? Advance of the APS.
Soldered resistance 24 kΩ 0.125 W all the error of the machine gone wrong working smoothly. This sensor is located in the area of the legs, it is better to first look at the pit from where the wires go and then dismantle and solder the resistance there. It soldered stupidly between the two wires, that is, it works instead of the sensor itself. Voooot))
By the way, yesterday I connected ELM on the bellow, I counted 3 errors: 1) P0170; 2) P0425; 3) P0303. Maybe someone is not lazy and very aware, then will sign. And in the evening after work, I will only google these errors myself. Thank you in advance. And I'm sorry iftop.
1. P0170 Fuel supply system malfunction 2. P0425 The temperature sensor of the catalytic converter and its circuit <MKPP> 3. P0303 Ignition misfires in cylinder 3
1. Р0170 Неисправность системы топливоподачи 2. Р0425 Датчик температуры каталитического нейтрализатора и его цепи <МКПП> 3. Р0303 Пропуски зажигания в цилиндре №3
im get a check engine light and the code is stating it the catalytic temperature sensor have already changed the one on the front of the car,by exhaust manifold,but the damn light still on.
yes idlemind i do kinda new to the lancer experience and a smart man sold me his car, to only realize in the first day of driving the service light came on. I got it scanned and its showing me the downstream sensor at a constant signal,so the mechanic told me the second o2 sensor needs to be changed . do you know where exactly is this located?on the exhaust pipe or just below the engine?
It's about right below the firewall. After the flang on the exhaust. You can't miss the wires screwing into your exhaust piping really. I suggest you take it out and carry it with you to find a replacement. You may have to cut the wires. But try not to if you can avoid it.
idlemind just got out below the car,there is no wires running below the car,which i found strange,looked like the previous owner removed the catalytic convertor and that is why the check light keeps coming on. What i did find though was a small piece of rubber like a seal below the car,followed it back to inside the car rite where the console for your left foot on the ground is and found a 2 pin white connector not plugged onto anything.
from my assumption the idiot must have of ripped it out from below the car Can you tell me if this second sensor is a 2pin? Seeing you have much more experience than i do can u say how am i going about fixing this?do i get the sensor and try to somehow get it into the exhaust or is there a way of bridging the connection so the ecu thinks its working properly? images are attached,any help would be greatly appreicated
idlemind just got out below the car,there is no wires running below the car,which i found strange,looked like the previous owner removed the catalytic convertor and that is why the check light keeps coming on. What i did find though was a small piece of rubber like a seal below the car,followed it back to inside the car rite where the console for your left foot on the ground is and found a 2 pin white connector not plugged onto anything.
bro i getting the same code is it p0425? i have a gdi also and i have the sensor right after the cat. the sensor u looking to buy is one with 4 wires, 2heater wires 1 ground and 1 signal. i been trying for months now to solve this problem.
i changed the one in front no luck , i even disconnected the one that is underneath nothin, swapped it with a new one same thing. nice picts though was lookin to find out where that wire goes. u can buy the NTK brand its bout 350 but a good brand think denso makes them .
thats the exact code im getting,i too have also changed the o2 on the exhaust in the front and believed that i had to change the one in the back to solve this problem,only to realise there is nothing there,i want to believe the 2pin connector would have led to the space on the body of the car and connected to the o2 sensor that was suppose to be below the car on the cat.
But you are telling me its a four wire sensor im looking for?are you positive of this? Can the exhaust in the front of the car be malfunctioning and causing the check light to throw these codes?
jus sharing my lil 2cents with everyone.. from the first post you can see the problem i had. I came across a check light and came up with a code po425 which was making my car run lean and i thought was a oxygen sensor,but because the previous owner removed the cat below the car and removed the sensor with it.i couldnt be 100% sure
well after extensive research and some help from raybic(a fellow tuner),i found out that the sensor i was searching for that was causing this code was a egt sensor/probe.
The egt sensor(exhaust gas temperature sensor)is a probe like sensor that goes into the catalyst below the car and monitors the temperature of the catalyst and throws a code if it detects overheating or a malfunctioning cat. ok enuff explanation.This is the solution
Remove foot rest on driver side,you need a 12" depth to do this
I used a 270 ohms resistor and plugged it into the connector(dis thing is 40cents for the lease by steves in san juan)you will need to disconnect the battery pole to clear the previous code
Once thats done,you mite want to tape it up to protect it from the elements reverse the process and attach the battery pole,start the car and taaa ddaaa,no more freaking engine check light
This has been the second week and the only amber lights im seeing are traffic lights.
I swear this works Pls note this fix is for the code po425 which reads as catalytic temperature sensor on OBD11 and is not to be a fix for po135 which relates to one of your o2 sensors(front or rear) This resistor mod is used for higher end cars such as wrx or evolutions. You can view the fix as a egt resistor fix here
Trapstar you safe once you scanned the car and getting the p0425 error code as this code relates to the egt sensor. My problem has been gone since i hav done the fix, thats close to a yr worry free :) Buh didnt u change engine recently? If you have the egt sensor is just to use it bac on your straight pipe
Greetings again .... before you do what you told me I found a site that if they work with these engines, and have the codes for this vehicle, then when they put the scanner shot 2 k codes are, P0425 that says Catalysst temperature, Sensor circuit bank 1, sensor 1 .....
and the P1515 but they did not know to say that this code was for k in the machine did not present description and the person more qualified for this was not in the place ..... Since things are clear to me a bit, that you can tell me then what should I do .....
Error P1313
http://cedia-club.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=15650
I'm sorry for the newly raised question on this error. I read many different topics, but I found a clear answer about how to fix this error.
2017/3/16(木) 午前 6:04[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
Found this here http://autodata.ru/article/all/kod_neis ... y_oshibok /, is this the only reason for this error? That's how it started: I stopped at the store, before that I drove as usual. Went out, dviglo did not stare, I turn around and here's to you races! The check is on, the car is trod (there was little fuel, got up on the hill and when the fuel returned it was almost at zero, but the badge did not burn.
2017/3/16(木) 午前 6:05[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
Thought that hapnul dirt), the birder shows the error P1313. Came home with a burning check. 30 minutes later, once again started the car, the check went out. Rejoiced, went to refuel, but failed to get to refueling, as the check again caught fire (until refueling about 3 km.). Refueled, but the check does not go off and the car just hurts.
2017/3/16(木) 午前 6:07[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
Added after 1 hour 12 minutes 53 seconds:
By the way, I do not have any extraneous sounds, as described in this link http://autodata.ru/article/all/kod_neis ... y_oshibok / about the inadmissible ovalization of the piston pin, which resulted in a tractor sound. Here is a video with the work of the engine http://vk.com/video53295720_163974726.
2017/3/16(木) 午前 6:08[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
GDI or MPI?
The wind in my head does not happen!
Http://vkontakte.ru/id32981912
Repair CEDIA !! Http://cedia-club.ru/board/uslugi/2649-diagnostika-i-remont-dvigatelya-hodovoy-v-krasnodare.html
http://cedia-club.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=15650
2017/3/16(木) 午前 6:11[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
GDI, now traveled 40 km. Acceleration and consumption is not much different, from how it was before the error, only hurts on the idle. Eco too early to turn off the beginning.
GDIは、今40キロを旅しました。加速と消費は、それがエラーの前にあったかから、唯一のアイドルに痛い、大差ありません。先頭を切ってエコ早すぎます。
2017/3/16(木) 午前 6:36[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
I recently had such a mistake .. dropped - did not happen again .. xs why. I sin on the 92nd benz. He returned back to the 95th. I think the ghost economy is not worth the engine killed by detonation. But again this is my IMHO.
2017/3/16(木) 午前 6:38[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
私は最近..このエラーが発生したドロップ - なぜこれ以上繰り返さ.. XSを。第92ベンツに関する罪。彼が戻って第95に戻りました。私は幽霊が殺さエンジンの爆発を保存する価値はないと思います。しかし、再び、これは私の私見です。
2017/3/16(木) 午前 6:39[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
The check burned? What were the symptoms?
チェックが燃えましたか？症状は何でしたか？
焼け（burned）の点検は？ 症状はどうですか？
2017/3/16(木) 午前 6:44[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
у меня чек не горел - ошибку случайно скачал через ОБД2 ...
http://cedia-club.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=15650
2017/3/16(木) 午前 6:47[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
а мне не так везёт :ny_tik: симбтомы описанны выше :cry_ing:
2017/3/16(木) 午前 6:48[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
Good afternoon!
Here came a right-handed, tormented wheelbarrow to me.
Mitsubishi Lancer Cedia Estate 1.8
VIN: CS5W-0301771 2001 dvs 4G93
I ask you to tell who knows.
What a mistake P1313.
Yes, and the question: what kind of compression should be?
Shows 14.8-15.2
Mileage 375k but twisted about 100tyk
Thank you in advance!
https://www.drive2.ru/c/453731341339459635/
2017/3/16(木) 午前 6:55[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
良い一日！
それは手押し車を拷問、右利きの私のところに来ました。
三菱ランサーセディアワゴン1.8
VIN：CS5W-03017712001 ICE4G93
知っている方、教えてください。
何P1313エラー。
そして、質問です：圧縮がどうあるべきか？
表示：（ショー）14,8~15,2 kgf/cm^2
マイレージ375tykしかし100tyk巻き付けます
事前に感謝します！
2017/3/16(木) 午前 6:57[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
P1313
Р1313 Lean surge
http://forum.mek1.ru/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=12379
2017/3/16(木) 午前 6:59[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
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2017/3/16(木) 午前 7:01[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
Good afternoon!
Here I have mentioned you highlights P1313 lean surge.
Is it possible to say ambiguously the reason? From your refutation, I still do not understand what position is correct.
If it is the deformation of parts inside the engine, is it not dangerous to exploit it?
Zaranne thank you!
http://forum.mek1.ru/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=12379
2017/3/16(木) 午前 7:24[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
良い一日！
今、私はあなたがP1313リーンサージを表示述べています。
あなたは理由が何であるかをotdnoznachno言うことができますか？あなたの拒否、私は位置が正確であるかを理解しませんでした。
それは危険な操作である場合には、エンジン内部の部品の変形である場合は？
事前にありがとうございます！
2017/3/16(木) 午前 7:25[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
こんにちは
ここで私はあなたがP1313リーンサージを強調して記載しています。
それがあいまいな理由を言うことは可能ですか？あなたの反論から、私はまだ正しいものの位置を理解していません。
それは、エンジン内部の部品の変形がある場合、それはしないが、それを利用するのは危険ですか？
Zaranneはありがとうございました！
2017/3/16(木) 午前 7:27[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
Operation is not dangerous.
操作は危険ではありません。
Эксплуатация неопасна.
2017/3/16(木) 午前 7:29[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
Message Number: # 3 Post by Alvin »Oct 16, 2008, 12:04 pm
At me the same error has got out on the scanner - diagnosticians decoding and have not found. I came to the service with a problem - the engine is unhealthy sausage at idle.
Turnovers on D in the norm - 650.
Turnovers on N are overestimated - 750.
Degree of detonation 35%
TVND and Lambda work like a clock.
2017/3/16(木) 午前 7:31[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
That's all I remember from the scanner's testimony.
If we take into account that the car eats a liter of oil per 1000 kilometers, then the answer was given - the engine's repair with replacement of oil-bearing rings and cleaning from the deposit.
What do you say, friends? Repair will cost 20-25 thousand rubles.
2017/3/16(木) 午前 7:31[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
私は同じエラーがスキャナ上に出てきました - 診断者はデコードしていませんでした。 私は問題でサービスに来た - エンジンはアイドル時に不健全なソーセージです。
ノーマルでDのターンオーバー - 650。
Nのターンオーバは過大評価されている - 750。
デトネーション度35％
TVNDとラムダは時計のように動作します。
2017/3/16(木) 午前 7:36[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
それは私がスキャナの証言から覚えているすべてのものです。
車が1000キロメートルあたりに1リットルのオイルを食べることを考慮すると、オイルリングの交換とデポジットからの清掃によるエンジン修理が行われました。
あなたは何を言うのですか？ 修理費用は20-25,000ルーブルになる。
2017/3/16(木) 午前 7:37[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
There is a GDI catalyst temperature sensor on the car! It is cut from the side in the middle of a can of catalyst. P0425 Catalyst temperature sensor. The people were treated with a resistance of 23 kOhm to 140 kOhm.
Есть на Каризме GDI датчик температуры катализатора ! Врезан сбоку посередине банки с катализатором . P0425 Catalyst датчик температуры. Народ лечил подбором сопротивления от 23 кОм до 140 кОм .
2017/3/19(日) 午前 11:20[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
車でのGDIの触媒温度センサがあります！これは、触媒の缶の中央に側面から切断されます。P0425触媒温度センサ。人々は140キロオーム〜23キロオームの抵抗で処理しました。
http://carisma-club.su/index.php?showtopic=7906
2017/3/19(日) 午前 11:23[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
You have to choose at random method? Or is there a universal value?
Методом тыка подбирать придется ? Или есть универсальное значение ?
あなたは、ランダムな方法で選択する必要がありますか？または普遍的な価値はありますか？
2017/3/19(日) 午前 11:27[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
I think that this is the case when it is necessary to use a variable resistance of 100 kΩ, connected through a constant one from 1 to 5 kOhm. As I understand it, the current there is small and you can use a resistance of 0.25 watts. How to make and where to place - I think you will understand. Any adjustment should be done on the hot catalyst.
2017/3/19(日) 午前 11:32[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
Думаю , что это тот случай , когда надо использовать переменное сопротивление на 100 кОм , подключенное через постоянное любое от 1 до 5 кОм . Насколько я понял , ток там небольшой и можно использовать сопротивления мощностью 0.25 Вт. Как сделать и где расположить - думаю разберётесь . Каие-то подстройки надо делать на прогретом катализаторе .
2017/3/19(日) 午前 11:32[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
私は1から5キロオームに定数1を介して接続された100kΩの可変抵抗を使用する必要があるときにこれが事実であると思います。私はそれを理解したように、電流が小さいがある、あなたは0.25ワットの抵抗を使用することができます。作り方とどこに置くか - 私はあなたが理解すると思います。任意の調整が熱い触媒上で行われるべきです。
2017/3/19(日) 午前 11:38[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
P0425 Catalyst Temperature Sensor Bank1 error
Ошибка P0425 Catalyst Temperature Sensor Bank1
エラーP0425触媒温度センサーバンク1
http://forum.mek1.ru/viewtopic.php?p=165629&sid=536d109e93f4210bb3c145268d222b56#p165629
2017/3/19(日) 午前 11:44[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
Hello!
Prompt please.
The check turned on. I drove went. Then he threw off the terminal with Akum. Then again all the rules were ridden, until somehow again he went at high speed for a long distance. Some craftsmen prompted to knock out the catalyst, which I did (the one that is the last, the biggest), but it did not help.
2017/3/19(日) 午後 0:25[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
I decided to scan and got the following (P0425 Catalyst Temperature Sensor Bank 1) thought it was an oxygen, but I was told that it was not the case (the oxygenator has its own error codes) and the catalyst temperature sensor that stands in the muffler last. I tried to disconnect it altogether and all the same, i.e. The check also lights up not immediately, but with a long drive at high speeds.
Thanks in advance.
Nikita
2017/3/19(日) 午後 0:25[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
So what to prompt now?
In which court to sue "on the protection of consumer rights"? Against the masters, which the "Temperature Sensor *" malfunction does not differ from "Warm up catalyst efficiency below threshold"?
Or that a significant part of monitors (subroutines) for checking actuators, sensors, etc. Started only if certain conditions are met, i.e. Under certain conditions. For example, the speed of movement is more such,
2017/3/19(日) 午後 0:28[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
the engine speed is more such, time is more than so many minutes ... etc. etc.
http://forum.mek1.ru/viewtopic.php?p=165629&sid=536d109e93f4210bb3c145268d222b56#p165629
2017/3/19(日) 午後 0:29[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
* Approximate appearance - in http://www.alflash.com.ua/Diagn/77.jpg
For many such sensors, the following applies: "Standard value: 1 MOhm or more (at 20 deg C) .The resistance should be approx 77 kOhm when the sensor temperature reaches 400 deg. C". The unit is able to catch both the "break" and "closing", and as a consequence, turn on the CE indicator and record the corresponding fault code in the memory.
2017/3/19(日) 午後 0:31[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
これらのセンサの多くが真の場合：「スタンダール値：
1メガオーム以上（20℃で）抵抗は
約77キロオームセンサ温度が400度Cに達する
http://forum.mek1.ru/viewtopic.php?p=165629&sid=536d109e93f4210bb3c145268d222b56#p165629
2017/3/19(日) 午後 0:33[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
This is not an oxygen sensor. Contact sensor problem is determined by the voltage change on the sensor, it looks at the date of the scanner. Change the voltage can be-changing the temperature of the catalyst-sudden overblows, after active driving. Usually the sensor is damaged and needs to be replaced.
2017/3/19(日) 午後 0:36[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
A similar problem. The check, by the way, lights up when driving at a speed> = 80-90 km / h for more than 1 minute. I have a chain break on the sensor, the catalyst is knocked out, the sensor itself probably melted. The scanner always shows a value of 4.98 V and XX and during the movement.
2017/3/19(日) 午後 0:38[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
The manual really says: "Standart value: 1 MOhm or more (at 20 deg C) .The resistance should be approx 77 kOhm when the sensor temperature reaches 400 deg. C" only in Russian.
Apparently after moving with the above specified speed for a minute, the sensor should be 100% warmed up to 400 deg. When the chain is broken, the computer sees resistance> 1 MΩ and ignites the transponder.
2017/3/19(日) 午後 0:40[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
I see only this solution: cut off two wires of the sensor and connect them with a resistor of 77 kOhm. Let the ECU consider that the catalyst will always be warmed up - maybe the mixture will not be rich in addition to warm up the catalyst (it only works for a certain t: wink:).
2017/3/19(日) 午後 0:42[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
The sensor itself is quite expensive, and without the catalyst its functionality is lost.
On Pajero IO a similar problem and there are complaints about the rise of consumption up to 12.5 liters: http://www.pinin.ru/plugins/forum/forum ... hp? 46375.0
2017/3/19(日) 午後 0:43[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
Tell me please, who in practice decided the problem as a result? I soldered the resistor at 82 kOhm and the check still lights up at a speed of over 110 kmh.
2017/3/19(日) 午後 0:44[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
Most likely, the change in resistance is also meant as it warms up
2017/3/19(日) 午後 0:45[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
Hmm, yesterday went on the highway. Indeed, after 110 km / h, a check comes on. It does not seem like this way.
2017/3/19(日) 午後 0:47[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
People, about analogs, no one knows anything? Does BOSCH not do ......
You can ask the contract at the showdown. Whether it will help.
Можно и контрактные на разборках спросить. Поможет ли.
2017/3/19(日) 午後 0:49[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
I already ordered a new one somewhere 4200 goes out: (I tried trying to pick up resistors from 200kOhm to 50kOhm and all without result .To see, indeed, the temperature change tracks.
2017/3/19(日) 午後 0:51[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
And further. It seems to me alone that he is driving the choke on the track?
И еще. Мне одному кажется, что он двигу душит на трассе?
2017/3/19(日) 午後 0:52[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
It depends on what car.
Dmitry Moscow RVR SPORT GEAR X2
EC7W?
2017/3/19(日) 午後 0:55[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
I tried to sprint with Toyota Wish (1.8 4WD). We left the city on the road and, not stopping, somewhere from 60 km / h "hacked". I immediately went ahead, but after about 120-130 km / h as an anchor threw out, although the turns were 3500-4000, i.е. Of the maximum torque. And all this without jerking and twitching, just like half a gas. It's a shame, damn it !!!
2017/3/19(日) 午後 0:56[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
How much I understand, Catalyst Temperature Sensor signals about catalyst overheating?
Overheating of the catalyst is certainly possible in hot weather with an established crash protection of the crankcase. And this case is described on the forum Mitsubishi Pajero Pinin IO Club http://pinin.ru/plugins/forum/forum_vie ... p? 46375.15
2017/3/19(日) 午後 0:57[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
"By the way, since I talked about overheating of the catalyst, I caught overheating after installing the Sheriff defense and then driving along the track at a speed of 140 km / h (4000 rpm) for about an hour and a half. S. I did not observe this phenomenon before the installation of protection, so in summer it is necessary to be more careful when driving long distances with such tuning. "
2017/3/19(日) 午後 0:58[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
And what about the overheating of the catalyst on the PININ without this sensor, but with two lambdas?
Will it stifle the engine by impoverishing the mixture? Or what?
2017/3/19(日) 午後 0:59[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
There is no other problem here: most people died of this sensor and do not signal anything. We think how to get around.
Нет здесь другая проблема - этот сенсор у большинства умер и ничего не сигнализирует. Думаем как обойти.
他の問題はここにありません。ほとんどの人は、このセンサーで死亡したと何も通知しません。私たちは、周りを取得する方法を考えます。
2017/3/19(日) 午後 1:10[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
P0425
Comp showed an error p 0425 only at a speed of more than 120 km you throw
off the terminal and you can drive at least a year if not more than 100 how to eliminate the breakdown ??? Advance of the APS.
コンプだけ超える120キロの速度でエラーP0425を示しました
あなたは、端末から投げると内訳を排除する方法はない100以上の場合は、少なくとも1年を駆動することができます？
APSのアドバンス。
2017/3/19(日) 午後 1:16[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
Soldered resistance 24 kΩ 0.125 W all the error of the machine gone wrong working smoothly.
This sensor is located in the area of the legs, it is better to first look at the pit from where the wires go and then dismantle and solder the resistance there.
It soldered stupidly between the two wires, that is, it works instead of the sensor itself.
Voooot))
2017/3/19(日) 午後 1:19[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
By the way, yesterday I connected ELM on the bellow, I counted 3 errors: 1) P0170; 2) P0425; 3) P0303. Maybe someone is not lazy and very aware, then will sign. And in the evening after work, I will only google these errors myself. Thank you in advance. And I'm sorry iftop.
2017/3/19(日) 午後 1:30[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
1) P0170;
2) P0425;
3) P0303:
http://galant-club.com/forum/topic/102789-самодиагностика-на-моем-гале/
2017/3/19(日) 午後 1:32[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
1. P0170 Fuel supply system malfunction
2. P0425 The temperature sensor of the catalytic converter and its circuit <MKPP>
3. P0303 Ignition misfires in cylinder 3
http://galant-club.com/forum/topic/102789-самодиагностика-на-моем-гале/
1. Р0170 Неисправность системы топливоподачи
2. Р0425 Датчик температуры каталитического нейтрализатора и его цепи <МКПП>
3. Р0303 Пропуски зажигания в цилиндре №3
2017/3/19(日) 午後 1:34[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
P0425
2002 lancer
im get a check engine light and the code is stating it the catalytic temperature sensor
have already changed the one on the front of the car,by exhaust manifold,but the damn light still on.
http://www.trinituner.com/v4/forums/viewtopic.php?t=420913
2017/3/19(日) 午後 2:14[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
Theres another O2 sensor below the car on the exhaust.
I assume you have a GDI engine correct?
排気の車の下の別のO2センサー。
GDIエンジンが正しいと思いますか？
2017/3/19(日) 午後 2:18[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
yes idlemind i do
kinda new to the lancer experience and a smart man sold me his car, to only realize in the first day of driving the service light came on.
I got it scanned and its showing me the downstream sensor at a constant signal,so the mechanic told me the second o2 sensor needs to be changed .
do you know where exactly is this located?on the exhaust pipe or just below the engine?
2017/3/19(日) 午後 2:20[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
私はそれをスキャンし、下流のセンサーを一定の信号で示していたので、メカニックは第2のo2センサーを変更する必要があると私に言った。
排気管やエンジンのすぐ下のどこにあるのか正確に分かりますか？
http://www.trinituner.com/v4/forums/viewtopic.php?t=420913
2017/3/19(日) 午後 2:21[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
It's about right below the firewall. After the flang on the exhaust.
You can't miss the wires screwing into your exhaust piping really.
I suggest you take it out and carry it with you to find a replacement.
You may have to cut the wires. But try not to if you can avoid it.
2017/3/19(日) 午後 2:22[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
ファイアウォールのすぐ下にあります。 排気のフランジの後。
本当にあなたの排気管にねじ込まれているワイヤーを見逃すことはできません。
私はあなたがそれを取り出して交換品を見つけるために持ち歩くことをお勧めします。
ワイヤーを切断する必要があるかもしれません。 しかし、あなたがそれを避けることができない場合にはしないでください。
2017/3/19(日) 午後 2:23[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
Thanks alot man,will look into dis afternoon and keep u posted
knowledge really is power.....
2017/3/19(日) 午後 2:25[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
idlemind just got out below the car,there is no wires running below the car,which i found strange,looked like the previous owner removed the catalytic convertor and that is why the check light keeps coming on.
What i did find though was a small piece of rubber like a seal below the car,followed it back to inside the car rite where the console for your left foot on the ground is and found a 2 pin white connector not plugged onto anything.
2017/3/19(日) 午後 2:28[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
アイドルマインドはちょうど車の下に出て、車の下に走っている電線はありません。これは以前の所有者が触媒コンバータを取り外したように見えました。それがチェックライトが点灯し続ける理由です。
私が見つけたのは、車の下のシールのようなゴムの小さな部分だったが、地面の左足用のコンソールがあり、何かに差し込まれていない2ピンの白いコネクターが見つかった車の儀式の中にそれに続いていった。
2017/3/19(日) 午後 2:29[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
from my assumption the idiot must have of ripped it out from below the car
Can you tell me if this second sensor is a 2pin?
Seeing you have much more experience than i do can u say how am i going about fixing this?do i get the sensor and try to somehow get it into the exhaust or is there a way of bridging the connection so the ecu thinks its working properly?
images are attached,any help would be greatly appreicated
2017/3/19(日) 午後 2:31[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
idlemind just got out below the car,there is no wires running below the car,which i found strange,looked like the previous owner removed the catalytic convertor and that is why the check light keeps coming on.
What i did find though was a small piece of rubber like a seal below the car,followed it back to inside the car rite where the console for your left foot on the ground is and found a 2 pin white connector not plugged onto anything.
2017/3/19(日) 午後 2:32[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
私の前提から、馬鹿は車の下からそれを切り取ったに違いない
この2番目のセンサーが2ピンであるかどうか教えてください。
あなたが私よりもはるかに多くの経験を持っていると分かりますが、これを修正する方法は何ですか？センサーを入手して何とか排気ガスに入れようとするか、接続をブリッジする方法があるので、ecuは正しく動作すると思います。 ？
画像が添付されていれば、どんな助けも大いにアピールされます
2017/3/19(日) 午後 2:34[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
bro i getting the same code is it p0425? i have a gdi also and i have the sensor right after the cat. the sensor u looking to buy is one with 4 wires, 2heater wires 1 ground and 1 signal. i been trying for months now to solve this problem.
2017/3/19(日) 午後 2:36[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
同じコードを取得していますか？p0425ですか？ 私はgdiも持っていて、私は触媒(猫)の直後にセンサーを持っています。 購入しようとしているセンサーは、4本の線、2本のヒーター線1本、1本の信号線で構成されています。 私は今この問題を解決するために数ヶ月努力してきました。
2017/3/19(日) 午後 2:38[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
i changed the one in front no luck , i even disconnected the one that is underneath nothin, swapped it with a new one same thing. nice picts though was lookin to find out where that wire goes. u can buy the NTK brand its bout 350 but a good brand think denso makes them .
2017/3/19(日) 午後 2:40[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
私は運が正面にあるものを変えました、私は何もしていないものを切り離して、それを新しいものと交換しました。 素敵な画像が、ワイヤーがどこに行くのかを調べるために探していました。 あなたはNTKブランド350を買うことができますが、良いブランドはデンソーがそれらを作ると思っています。
2017/3/19(日) 午後 2:41[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
thats the exact code im getting,i too have also changed the o2 on the exhaust in the front and believed that i had to change the one in the back to solve this problem,only to realise there is nothing there,i want to believe the 2pin connector would have led to the space on the body of the car and connected to the o2 sensor that was suppose to be below the car on the cat.
2017/3/19(日) 午後 2:44[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
But you are telling me its a four wire sensor im looking for?are you positive of this?
Can the exhaust in the front of the car be malfunctioning and causing the check light to throw these codes?
2017/3/19(日) 午後 2:44[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
tuners heard of this going and try this i gettin this same prob
2017/3/19(日) 午後 2:50[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
jus sharing my lil 2cents with everyone..
from the first post you can see the problem i had.
I came across a check light and came up with a code po425 which was making my car run lean and i thought was a oxygen sensor,but because the previous owner removed the cat below the car and removed the sensor with it.i couldnt be 100% sure
2017/3/19(日) 午後 2:51[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
well after extensive research and some help from raybic(a fellow tuner),i found out that the sensor i was searching for that was causing this code was a egt sensor/probe.
2017/3/19(日) 午後 2:55[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
The egt sensor(exhaust gas temperature sensor)is a probe like sensor that goes into the catalyst below the car and monitors the temperature of the catalyst and throws a code if it detects overheating or a malfunctioning cat.
ok enuff explanation.This is the solution
Remove foot rest on driver side,you need a 12" depth to do this
2017/3/19(日) 午後 2:55[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
Remove carpet to find this(this is the hole which leads below the car to the cat)
これを見つけるためにカーペットを取り外す（これは車の下で触媒（猫）につながる穴です）
2017/3/19(日) 午後 2:59[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
There should be a two pin wire harness which should have a white connector onto it(this is what the egt sensor normally plugs into)
それに白いコネクタが付いているはずの2ピンワイヤーハーネスが必要です（これは、egtセンサーが通常プラグインしているものです）
2017/3/19(日) 午後 3:01[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
I used a 270 ohms resistor and plugged it into the connector(dis thing is 40cents for the lease by steves in san juan)you will need to disconnect the battery pole to clear the previous code
http://www.trinituner.com/v4/forums/download/file.php?id=85802&t=1&sid=f5ffcf658ae7a08b2ace6565301c6690
私は270オームの抵抗器を使用し、それをコネクタに差し込みました（これはサンフアンのstevesによるリースのため40センチです）、前のコードをクリアするにはバッテリーポールを外す必要があります
2017/3/19(日) 午後 3:17[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
This is the connector with the resistor in
これは抵抗器が挿入されたコネクタであり、
2017/3/19(日) 午後 3:20[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
Once thats done,you mite want to tape it up to protect it from the elements
reverse the process and attach the battery pole,start the car and taaa ddaaa,no more freaking engine check light
This has been the second week and the only amber lights im seeing are traffic lights.
それが完了したら、あなたはそれを要素から保護するためにテープで貼り付けたい
プロセスを逆にしてバッテリポールを取り付けると、車とタータダダを始動させます。
これは二週間目となり、唯一のアンバーライトは信号機です。
2017/3/19(日) 午後 3:24[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
I swear this works
Pls note this fix is for the code po425 which reads as catalytic temperature sensor on OBD11 and is not to be a fix for po135 which relates to one of your o2 sensors(front or rear)
This resistor mod is used for higher end cars such as wrx or evolutions.
You can view the fix as a egt resistor fix here
http://forums.evolutionm.net/general-en ... cheat.html
http://www.clubwrx.net/forums/engine-mo ... r-mod.html
2017/3/19(日) 午後 3:27[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
私はこの作品を誓う
Plsは、この修正はOBD11の触媒温度センサーとして読み込まれ、o2センサー（フロントまたはリア）のいずれかに関連するpo135の修正ではないコードpo425に対するものであることに注意してください。
この抵抗モードは、wrxやevolutionsなどのハイエンドカーに使用されます。
あなたはここでegt抵抗の修正として修正を見ることができます
2017/3/19(日) 午後 3:28[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
Good stuff raybic and nissan4life..
This is a real breakthrough..
グッドスタッフraybicとnissan4life ..
これは本当の画期的なものです..
http://www.trinituner.com/v4/forums/viewtopic.php?t=420913
2017/3/19(日) 午後 3:33[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
nissan4life, this is excellent. Posted your problem and was able to solve itmwhile showing us what was done. Good job.
nissan4life、これは素晴らしいです。 あなたの問題を掲示し、私たちに何が行われたのかを見せながらそれを解決することができました。 よくやった。
2017/3/19(日) 午後 3:35[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
Im gonna try having dis same problem
私は同じ問題を抱えてみるつもりだ
2017/3/19(日) 午後 3:37[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
Trapstar you safe once you scanned the car and getting the p0425 error code as this code relates to the egt sensor.
My problem has been gone since i hav done the fix, thats close to a yr worry free :)
Buh didnt u change engine recently? If you have the egt sensor is just to use it bac on your straight pipe
2017/3/19(日) 午後 3:41[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
あなたが車をスキャンし、このコードがegtセンサーに関係しているので、p0425エラーコードを取得したら、あなたは安全です。
私の問題は、私はhavが修正を行ってから行ってきました。
Buhは最近エンジンを交換しませんでしたか？ egtセンサーを使用しているのであれば、まっすぐなパイプのバクを使用するだけです
2017/3/19(日) 午後 3:42[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
I didn't get the egt
私はegtを取得していない
2017/3/19(日) 午後 3:44[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
and you went gdi?
Raybic did the same thing so the solution works. Just ensure you get the 270 ohms resistor
Leh me know if all works out
あなたはgdiに行った？
Raybicも同じことをして、ソリューションが機能します。 ちょうどあなたが270オームの抵抗を得ることを確認してください
Leh私はすべてがうまくいくかどうか知っている
2017/3/19(日) 午後 3:47[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
Greetings again .... before you do what you told me I found a site that if they work with these engines, and have the codes for this vehicle, then when they put the scanner shot 2 k codes are, P0425 that says Catalysst temperature, Sensor circuit bank 1, sensor 1 .....
2017/3/19(日) 午後 3:53[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
and the P1515 but they did not know to say that this code was for k in the machine did not present description and the person more qualified for this was not in the place ..... Since things are clear to me a bit, that you can tell me then what should I do .....
http://www.todoautos.com.pe/f79/mitsubishi-motor-gdi-2414/index122.html
2017/3/19(日) 午後 3:54[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
あなたは、私は彼らがこれらのエンジンで動作し、ショットが入れたときに、Kスキャナ2削減をこの車両用のコードを持っている場合は、Catalysst温度を言っp0425していることをサイトを発見したと述べた何を前にあいさつ再び...
2017/3/19(日) 午後 3:55[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
コーデュロイセンサ回路バンク1、センサー1およびP1515.....が、私はそれがマシンにおけるkによってこのコードであり、このより有能な人には説明を示さなかったと言うする方法を知りませんでしたが場所ではありませんでした.....物事が私には少し明確にしているので、あなたは、私が行うことを教えすることができます.....
2017/3/19(日) 午後 3:56[ ogw*og*3 ]返信する
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MI:TA-CS5W:4G93:F1C1A:CVT:ENG:MIL:DTC:P0304:#4:MisFire:FFD: P0304 #4 MisFire FFD: 21:THW; 85 ℃ 22:CRN(Ne): 2449 rpm 24:Vs: 111 km/h 81:LTFT,B1: 3.1 % 82:STFT,B1: -1.6 % 87:C.Load: 70.6 % 88:Fuel statac ,B1 : Close Loop 89:Fuel statac
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